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  1. Jeff,
    you couldn't be too long winded for me on the subject. Reading and discussing this stuff is like a drug to me lol. Makes me wish I worked in the field somehow. Also the board I mod on is dogmatic about "DC training" so I don't get to discuss these things with anyone.

    Just to give you an idea what I'm up against at my other board..
    Someone was doing the linear 5x5 and, getting close to his top weights on bench, was going to change exercises to some machine when he "stalled". I suggested maybe switching exercises isn't necessarily the best idea and that maybe he should reset and build up again - which of course is how the program was designed. I assume this erked him because I got no response to that and now he's going back to DC training I think. Ah well to each his own...

    Point is, the little dialogue I've had with you has been a breath of fresh air. Which is why "I" am so long winded.
    Jay
  2. That brings me to today. You see I've wasted so much time "bodybuilding" that I've craved more experiential knowledge on true strength training beyond the beginner/intermediate level. Looked at advanced 5x5, sheiko, 5/3/1, etc....it really all starts to blend together after a while in that it's all about loading/unloading and with variations of volume and intensity. I prefer the volume approaches for added mass and not having to "max out" at home all the time (with my 120lb wife as a spotter).

    I'll find my path and adjust as needed but I'm just trying to stay read and ask questions to learn from others instead of spending years trying to learn from my failures. Right now I've finished my first 4 weeks of a 5x5 loading phase and doing 2 weeks of 3x3 and see how my recovery goes. Already I've gained strength on benches, rows, deads and press even before the deload but squats kicked my ass...so I've certainly overreached and already learning my tolerances to loading/unloading phases
  3. I quit lifting in college and took up drinking instead. Had some decent success when I came back to it but did alot of DC training and a couple stints of Adanced GVT. DC training was "okay"..It's pretty much just HIT though they don't like to admit it. It was okay when I was a lower level intermediate but I can't make gains with that method anymore.

    Over the past 2 years I've been veering away from the pumping and failure training philosophy and find myself identifying with powerlifters and olympic lifters more than bodybuilders. Ironically all this happened while "cutting" from 255 to 199.
  4. Jeff,
    yes I have read practical programming...great read as well as Science and Practice but have not to read Supertraining. I had also posted on Pendlay Forum to see if I could get a response from Pendlay himself about the matter but I don't think I piqued his interest lol.

    I spent my early years bb'ing joe weider style. Made some initial gains and then stagnated as me and my workout partner read FAR too many pro bber routines etc. Didn't want to powerlift cuz we didn't want to "look fat" like the heavy weight pler cliche....of course now I regret that perspective bigtime!
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    I think the advanced section of PP was written by Pendlay in fact. That’s kind of broad but so was your question. Hope I wasn’t too long winded.

    Jeff
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    The programs themselves are totally secondary, not only because there are so many ways to do it, but the role of knowing your CNS and backing off is so important. Everything is built off this essential point.

    Have you read Mark Rippetoe's Practical Programming (PP)? I remember you saying you were well read, it’s a good book because it offers a perspective without veering off track. It follows suit with Pavel's writing and philosophy and is a nice transitional text for other advanced texts like The Science and Practice of Strength Training, etc…

    Part IV coming
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    Training is about listening to my CNS (nervous energy) while fixing damage left from the past. For instance, I've been doing the Snatch Balance for about a year, slowly heading toward full OL integration. Every time I try a new exercise I spend months at a time ridding of trigger points from various parts of the body. This is from the “to failure training”.

    I biggest thing I've learned thus far and I think the biggest mistake people make is that it isn’t the programs themselves that make you better, it’s the listening and learning of your body/CNS during load/deload cycles, and the impact of the amount of food you have to eat when you’re trying to add lbs on the bar.

    Standby for III
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    Hi there,
    I saw your post on Pendlay Forums since I've been lurking there for a while. I haven’t set up a username and password, but they don’t get a lot of traffic on the site. The reason I say this is because you caught me in the middle of a transitional period, I've got Tommy Kono's book in my bag and I’ve been shopping for bumpers and plywood for flooring.

    I’m not a good model to go by. I spent my entire adolescents and adulthood up to about 5 years ago training to failure. I come from a Hardgainer and HIT background, so now with getting older (age 41), training means more to my health than it did in the past.

    Look for part II...this program can't take my long winded post
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