Eat Stop Eat

[Dermanus]

I've been doing WD for awhile. Sounds like this is the same sort of idea.

Is it worth getting the book, or have I figured out everything I need from this thread? Like the WD, it seems like it's simple enough for a pamphlet.

[Chiggers]

Originally Posted by Daniel-San

So my question is: what are the differences between them?

Daniel-San and Dermanus,

Personally you can gain a lot form Brad's blog (author of ESE) and you tube videos. To be honest you can get enough from reading articles and possibly this thread. The book would help you explain scientifically why it all works but not needed if you just want the results.

Both WD and ESE are types of intermittent fasting. For many the WD works and for some it doesn't. ESE can for some (me included in this) be a little easier to apply. To be honest i found it easier to work around my life.

The key is two 24 hour fasts a week and eating normally for the rest of the week. The fasts can be done for example from lunch to the following lunch or however you want. This is the key in that the fasts are not an excuse to eat excessively the following day. In short it is really about calorie control and looking at this over a longer time frame. By eating regularly and cutting out food for two 24 hour periods you inevitably consume less calories and thus are likely to be able to loose weight / keep your weight down. Brad is also a fan of strength training over cardio and promotes this as a way to ensure that you lower body fat and don't loose muscle mass.

I think he has a very good way of putting science into terms people understand and that makes his blog and you tube stuff worth considering.

Hopefully of help,

Chiggers

[Daniel-San]

Thanks Chiggers, you helped a lot.
Actually, since I stopped doing the warrior diet full time, I still do it once a week, so I guess I'm not that far from the EFE idea. Just one more questio though: do you find that the non-eating day not only helps you get lower body fat but also helps you put on some lean muscle, since it is kind of a calorie/protein cycle? Or is really just about loosing some fat?
I hope the question was well formulated.
Thanks again

[Chiggers]

Originally Posted by Daniel-San

Thanks Chiggers, you helped a lot.
Actually, since I stopped doing the warrior diet full time, I still do it once a week, so I guess I'm not that far from the EFE idea. Just one more questio though: do you find that the non-eating day not only helps you get lower body fat but also helps you put on some lean muscle, since it is kind of a calorie/protein cycle? Or is really just about loosing some fat?
I hope the question was well formulated.
Thanks again

Daniel-San,

Not sure i am the best man to answer this. Right now i am focussing on loosing fat and due to running goals not overly bothered about loosing a little muscle. Brad on his blog from my understanding is pretty adamant that if you continue weight training you wont loose muscle mass on the fast days. I think it totally reasonable to have a good chance of lowering body fat and increasing lean muscle.

For me it just seems, for once, to be a diet i can get with. Since you are almost there perhaps read up on the blog, ask Brad some questions if the answers aren't there and give it a whirl?

Cheers,

Chiggers

[knobby]

Originally Posted by Chiggers

Daniel-San,

Not sure i am the best man to answer this. Right now i am focussing on loosing fat and due to running goals not overly bothered about loosing a little muscle. Brad on his blog from my understanding is pretty adamant that if you continue weight training you wont loose muscle mass on the fast days. I think it totally reasonable to have a good chance of lowering body fat and increasing lean muscle.

For me it just seems, for once, to be a diet i can get with. Since you are almost there perhaps read up on the blog, ask Brad some questions if the answers aren't there and give it a whirl?

Cheers,

Chiggers

According to the book your metabolism doesn't change until you're fasting for 72 hours in a row which won't happen with ESE.

[Chiggers]

Originally Posted by knobby

According to the book your metabolism doesn't change until you're fasting for 72 hours in a row which won't happen with ESE.

Thanks for clearing that up Knobby. Looks like i should get the book soon

[knobby]

Sure thing Comrade. It's definitely worth it--a quick easy read and you'll always have it to refer to. Very interesting studies and information that makes sense.

Jim

[scors50]

Been doing this for a while now. I do a dinner to dinner fast, because it means that the majority of the fast is while I'm asleep. It helped me drop about 7 pounds and lower my BF from 15% to 12.5%. And I'm 55 years old. One of my fast day is my "off" day (TOALLY off) and the other is a light training day. This has worked well for me so far. Simple, easy to follow and adhere to once you get past the first week or two.

[avilezj]

I haven't heard of it but it sound like stop eating for large periods of time (fasting). This will tell your metabolism to reduce you resting metabolic rate (RMR, amoount of calories used while resting) and you will be using less energy. So that means less calories burnt, more calories stored as fat.

[Chiggers]

Originally Posted by avilezj

I haven't heard of it but it sound like stop eating for large periods of time (fasting). This will tell your metabolism to reduce you resting metabolic rate (RMR, amoount of calories used while resting) and you will be using less energy. So that means less calories burnt, more calories stored as fat.

Read up on intermittent fasting and even consider reading Brad's blog / looking at his youtube page that you can find if you google ESE. There is a lot of science as some of the previous posts mention that contradict your point. Enjoy your reading.