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    Default Carbohydrate Surprise

    No, it's not a recipe. In the distant past when I was very overweight carbs would send my weight spiraling up if I was trying to lose weight. So, I have viewed myself as carb sensitive for years. Recently I relocated to the Mexican border. The culture is predominantly Hispanic. There is lots of Hispanic food available in the stores along with local (Mexican and American grown)produce and meat for really cheap prices, so I decided to start including things like more beans, tortillas, rice, as well as various other ethnic, but primarily carbohydrate foods. My protein level has dropped from 230 grams a day to about 170 average. My carb level (whole grains, whole beans, vegetables, no simple sugars) has increased quite a bit. I am 76" and 235 to 240 lbs. I was scared that weight gain would start, and while I haven't tried to lose weight while getting settled I have not gained any weight. As a matter of fact my weight is more stable than it has ever been. Even in the last year doing something like exceeding my carb or calorie in take a day caused a huge weight see-saw or 3 to 5 lbs in one day. Now my weight is stable even if I do exceed my calories or carbs a day or two which happened a lot during my move. My fears or rapid out of control weight gain were not realized. I think that maybe I am in fact not carb sensitive anymore? I don't really get it, but I am happy my weight is more stable. I just hope my protein intake of 170 g is sufficient to efficient muscle building.
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    there are carbs and then there are carrrrrrbs.

    Although I too am carb-intolerant, I eat many cups of beans per day and see continual weight loss. But if I ate a water-cress sandwich, that bread would stall the weight loss sure as shit.

    My hypothesis is that it is the processed carbs that get to my waistline.

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    Is a whole grain Tortilla considered processed? I guess it is to a certain extent. These aren't the standard tortillas with high fructose corn syrup, a home made looking deal made just across the border. Only whole grain flour, water, salt, and (of all things) lard in the ingrediants. They are low fat even though they have some lard. In the past I considered this to be one of the carbs I was sensitive too, though I never really tested it. Here is an Old EL Paso tortilla from General foods:
    Enriched bleached flour (wheat flour, niacin, iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, partially hydrogenated vegetable oil (soybean, cottonseed) with mono- and diglycerides, glycerin, corn syrup solids, salt, baking powder (baking soda, corn starch, sodium aluminum sulfate, calcium sulfate, monocalcium phosphate), potassium sorbate and calcium propionate (preservative), monoglycerides, fumaric acid, L-cysteine hydrochloride.
    Thats a bit of difference in ingredients. In any case while I am still wondering whether the food here is healthy I have to say it is some of the best tasting food I have eaten in years.



    Recently been eating a lot of beans and some beans called Terpery beans. They grow in the Sonoran Desert I am told and are the most drought resistant bean around.
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    it sounds good. Occasionally, as part of my post-training meal, I will make myself a tortilla with flour and water. I have not done it in a while because I have become afraid of stunting my progress but perhaps I will slap one together and see how it goes. Hasta Luego

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    I make home-made flour tortillas every sunday, and have them with my meals most days of the week. They are big, fat, chewy, and delicous.. I also refry up some pinto beans quite often- as refried beans go great with most meat/tortilla combos. I'd never give up my mexican food - it's just too good.

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    sounds like youre eating the right kind of carbs... thats awesome. I am pretty carb sensitive too but if I just make sure to get the right whole grain complex carbs I don't see the reaction I would get if i ate white bread, pasta and potatoes.

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    I have never had a weight problem, so my anecdotes aren't entirely relevant here, but I have been eating a lot of beans lately, and taking in a sizeable amount of carbs. I feel quite good. I love the black beans, and many dinners of late have consisted of 1 pound of black beans mixed with 1 pound of chili beans mixed with a half cup of carrots. Not the most appetizing meal, but it's quite filling, very cheap, and it seems to be treating my body comp and energy levels quite well.
    Black beans are wonderful all around. Read this lengthy article describing the many benefits, and you shall love them more than ever:
    WHFoods: Black beans

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    I will share my Guatemalan nanny's black bean recipe;

    1 lb of black beans
    3 cloves of garlic
    bay leaves
    chicken bouillon, or pork bouillon
    1 onion
    bacon

    rinse and soak beans overnight, submerge in water because they'll absorb a lot of it.
    Boil 4 cups of water w 2 chicken bouillon and bay leaves, add beans, onion, and garlic. I put a couple of frozen chicken breasts in there because they dissolve and add to the flavor. I also add a couple of serrano peppers for spice.

    Lower heat to low med and just let it simmer for a couple of hours (3 or so), stirring occasionally. Season to taste and enjoy.

    This is as basic as it gets. Try it in a clay pot and through in some bones from your local butcher--oh boy.

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    ATL - I think a lot of would come from answering the question "why was I fat in the first place?" or "how was I eating when I was fat?"

    Does your current diet "match" your "when I was fat diet?" If the answer is no, then all is well.

    When I was fat it was a lot of fast food meals, sodas, snacks at night, bad lunches, etc. That is why I was fat. Did the carbs have anything to do with it? I don't know. But I do know I was eating unhealthy and way too many calories.

    It took me going low to no carb to break a lot of those bad dietary habits. It is much harder to have an unhealthy lunch if all you are eating is meat and veggies!

    But now that the weight is off, I have completely redefined for myself what a bad meal is. Before, I would not blink at having a double cheeseburger and going big on the fries and soda. Now those types of foods do not even enter into consideration. Really, a major decision for me is whether to include rice! every so often with my meals.

    And I firmly believe that processed food has a much larger impact that good, natural, food.

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    When I was fat it was 8000 to 10,000 calories of fast food, chips, sugary Mello Yello or Mountain Dew, peanut butter sandwich with a half jar of peanut butter, etc... I thought eating healthy was a low sodium Oreo or something like that. When I discovered Ben & Jerry's ice cream things hit a whole new level. Now my diet is a shadow of it's former self. I have agonized over eating too many beans before, and this morning I ran 7 miles for fun (variety day for ETK) so I think things may have changed. Losing the first 40 pounds was easy...I just cut myself back to 4000 calories a day and it fell off. The rest of it came hard.
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