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    Ideal Paradigm is offline Senior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Green UK View Post
    IP, one of the reasons I am doing this is because my digestion is MUCH better when I have little or no fiber in my diet. In fact, the only times in my life that I haven't had severe bloating and abdominal pain all day long is when Ive gone all-meat. I have heard that most fecal matter is dead micro-organisms although I dont know how accurate that is.

    You say it goes against conventional nutrition advice- well brilliant. The same conventional advice that recommends 6-11 portions of grains a day (laughable) and has guided the western world towards obesity and early graves. Would you trade your RKC principles for 3 sets of 10 on machines (because theyre safer!) followed by static stretching and 30 mins of 'fat-burning' cardio? Hell no, conventional advice is bullshit in the fitness realm as well.
    Conventional nutrition is changing and constantly having revisions just like the fitness world is. The fitness world used to rely on machines, and now more and more people are finding out that machines are not as efficient as other methods for training. The same goes for nutrition (especially those grain servings). However, one of the major staples that is still advocated with the new research is a high fiber diet. That's all I'm saying.

    If it your diet works for you, then power to you. I know I fall into the normal population at least, because when I eat only meat, I get constipated. When I started increasing my fiber, I had more frequent bowel movements, higher energy levels, and my recovery time shortened.

    Conversely, this forum has some out of the ordinary people so I wouldn't be surprised if there have been some unique discoveries/techniques that work.

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    Sorry if I sounded confrontational, I tend to do that over the internet...

    I agree, individuality is key and everyone is different. Some people high fibre, some people not.

    What annoys me is when things become dogmatic. Certainly some people do best if they eat breakfast then steadily throughout the day, but many others thrive on a WD/IF regime. But its the people who arrogantly claim that we must all eat breakfast, or we must all eat fibre, we should all avoid meat etc that bug me!

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    you wouldn't happen to be blood type O ? meant to be meat eaters according to the blood type diet. Nothing wrong with grains though, its what we do to them and add to them that makes them bad. If bread were just wheat and water like ye old days then you could probably eat it all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozy View Post
    you wouldn't happen to be blood type O ? meant to be meat eaters according to the blood type diet...
    Yes, I am, though I am not Matthew. I was thinking the same thing, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Green UK View Post
    Sorry if I sounded confrontational, I tend to do that over the internet...

    I agree, individuality is key and everyone is different. Some people high fibre, some people not.

    What annoys me is when things become dogmatic. Certainly some people do best if they eat breakfast then steadily throughout the day, but many others thrive on a WD/IF regime. But its the people who arrogantly claim that we must all eat breakfast, or we must all eat fibre, we should all avoid meat etc that bug me!
    You did not sound confrontational at all. I wish you the best of luck in your diet and your training. I was simply bringing up points that have been proven in science. Although the efficacy of an all-meat diet has not been tested (so far as I know), so it may very well be a good diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ideal Paradigm View Post
    You did not sound confrontational at all. I wish you the best of luck in your diet and your training. I was simply bringing up points that have been proven in science. Although the efficacy of an all-meat diet has not been tested (so far as I know), so it may very well be a good diet.
    Ideal,

    When you followed the diet, ask yourself a few things. What was you fat content? Was the meat too lean? Your water intake? Etc? Maybe fiber is what you needed or maybe something else could have fixed the problem. At least you are open minded about the subject. Just food (pun unintentional) for thought.

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    I know the question wasn't dirrected to me - but I am type O as well. I don't know how much validity there is to the blood-type diets. I'm not saying that I don't think they could be valid I just have never looked into it too much. But I do find the concept interesting since I did natually lean in this dirrection before I had heard of the concept. I had been vegetarian for 6 or 8 years and vegan for about two. But that was before strength training and BJJ. I just slowly made a complete 180 because it works well for me.

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    OK, I am a week late on this, but I have worked my way down to all meat and eggs with the exception of an occasional tomato (they are just now ripening on the vine) and salad. I will continue the slow progression to the all meat thing over the next week until all of the tomatoes have been harvested and consumed.

    I'll use the blog here or set one up when I go 100% to report my progress.

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    I just had a look into this blood group diet stuff, as someone with type A blood I'm supposed to be a veggie apparently... the list of stuff I can and can't eat is just about opposite to what I do eat... quite funny really!

    I couldn't survive on that, little to no meat? I love meat! And all my favourite fruit and veg are the ones that are "bad" for me... hmm I think not!
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    So how goes the "Meatatarian" diet? I am very interested in your reports. Just a couple questions though. 1. Are you going to consume any fruits and veggies? If so, I imagine you will keep the content pretty low. As I have been thinking about your approach, I was thinking about have a peice of fruit after the meat meal for dessert. And just snacking on a few veggies ie carrots, celery, cauliflour etc. 2. What about dairy? Yogourt and cottage cheese would provide some "gut" health. Also whole milk is yummy. I guess just watch the carb content on those items though. Report back.

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