Eggs VS. Chicken

[ZKP]

Thanks for the input Com. Guys! I knew chickens where just bad on a multitude of levels deep down in my bones for so long. It's like a light of understand has just come on!

[EricJMoss]

Originally Posted by Will WilliamsRKC

ZKP:
The Chief believes that chickens are weak animals, that is why he dislikes them.

Cholesterol you eat has nothing to do with the cholesterol in your bloodstream. The correlation is saturated fat.

Cholesterol is located in the saturated fat, and the higher the saturated fat content, the higher the cholesterol in milligrams. However, the body does require some saturated fat, and what better source than the naturally occurring content in eggs. If you are truly concerned, keep the ratio simple, like, 1 whole egg + 3 whites.

As a guy who does not eat chicken, turkey, beef, or pork, I can tell you this:
Chicken cannot fly. They have wings but can't fly. This bothers me.

As a guy who has behaved inappropriately for about 28 of his 30 years, and who has used cussin' on these forums, I can speak honestly when I say that the forum admininstrator would greatly appreciate using the term Sh^t as oppossed to the full swear word. I'm not calling you out, I just know that everyone benefits if we keep it clean. And if you see me actin' a fool, hammer me for it!

Train hard as Sh*t today, people, rest tomorrow. . . . . .

someone tried to cut this chickens head off and he didn't die. maybe chickens aren't so weak after all

[ZKP]

Originally Posted by EricJMoss

someone tried to cut this chickens head off and he didn't die. maybe chickens aren't so weak after all

the Anti-Chicken......

[Chris713]

Hidden Dragon is correct about the lipid hypothesis being bull. Saturated fat doesn't cause heart disease, and high cholesterol isn't a problem. Several hormones, such as Vitamin D, are created by cholesterol. If your cholesterol levels are to low you can't make Vitamin D and will have plenty of health problems. I eat coconut oil every day, which is almost all saturated, and have lost lots of fat as a result. The lipid hypothesis has made, and will continue to make, lots of money for the edible oil industry, as well as the pharmaceutical industry with cholesterol lowering drugs. The last line in Lipitor ads reads "Lipitor has not been shown to prevent heart disease or heart attacks."

[Copper]

Originally Posted by Steve W.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?







It depends...










on which got laid first ;-)

That's funny- I don't care who you are!

[Seb V-G]

Cholesterol is not the bad guy (if interested look up "The great cholesterol lie" by Dr. Dwight Lundell), saturated fat is really not as bad as people think it is (if interested look up ("Good calories, bad calories" by Gary Taubes).

Like hidden dragon said, processed stuff is what kills you. It's true saturated fat elevates LDL, or low-density lipoprotein(known as "bad"), but it also raieses HDL, or high-density lipoprotein (the good kind of cholesterol). If you follow a low fat/low cholesterol diet you will have lower levels of cholesterol, BUT will have a higher percentage of LDL and small VLDL, or very low density lipoprotein (which is the worst kind). If you don't follow a low fat/low cholesterol diet you will still get some VLDL but they are a bigger, more puffy kind, which is better than the smaller type of VLDL (think of the smaller kind like sand, it will have a higher chance of clogging).

Eggs have good cholesterol (better when not oxidized) and nice biological value protein, so don't worry about it. Besides, who wants to take the time to separate egg whites and yolks? I sure don't... Charles Poliquin said something like "Egg whites are for dorks"... nature made it so there was a yolk in eggs, keep it that way.

Chicken's good too, I'm just annoyed with the saying that fat or cholesterol is to be avoided due to the cholesterol or saturated fat content (the eggs' saturated fat content is just 25%, the rest is mono and polyunsaturated fats, it's almost the same for things like red meats...)

[Mitchell_J]

My mom use to make sauteed soup chicken with onions and scrambled eggs. It's pretty good.

[vanessa walters]

I eat an egg or 2 every now and then; I do eat more chicken, because I like chicken, easy to fix (for a single person), in many different ways, not much fat, gristle or bone to deal with; Ive always liked chicken better than pork or beef. By the way, I LIKED the message from the guy about cussing; I was married to a cusser, and I dont miss the language that I heard from him on a daily basis (at me, as well as about me)...way too much profanity in usage today anyway.

[D-Rock]

Another reason to eat chicken is you get chicken stock! I usually buy whole chickens, de-bone them and throw all the bones/innards into the freezer for when I need to make another batch of stock.

Being able to make soup from homemade stock on a moments notice is nice.

[Rambodoc]

Originally Posted by Chris713

The last line in Lipitor ads reads "Lipitor has not been shown to prevent heart disease or heart attacks."

That is not true, I think. From the website of the drug:

LIPITOR is a prescription medicine that is used along with a low-fat diet. It lowers the LDL ("bad" cholesterol) and triglycerides in your blood. It can raise your HDL ("good" cholesterol) as well. LIPITOR can lower the risk for heart attack, stroke, certain types of heart surgery, and chest pain in patients who have heart disease or risk factors for heart disease such as age, smoking, high blood pressure, low HDL, or family history of early heart disease.

LIPITOR can lower the risk for heart attack or stroke in patients with diabetes and risk factors such as diabetic eye or kidney problems, smoking, or high blood pressure.

Incidentally, the AHA has released a statement of evidence saying that in the group of patients who have low HDL levels with low LDL levels while on statins (Lipitor is one) the risk of heart attacks is NOT reduced. Which is another way of saying that it is HDL that is as big, if not bigger, a factor affecting incidence of heart attacks as compared to LDL. I could give you the full paper if you wish. Very interesting.