
10-21-2009, 07:35 PM
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Whey to go?
My mom is an all natural organic food nut. She's a member of a veggie co-op and also a dairy co-op. She gets whole raw milk weekly and makes her own butter and yogurt. My question is:
The other day I was asking her about replacing Muscle Milk as a post workout supp because I was becoming leary of consuming all those artificial lipids and sweeteners and junk. She gave me a mason jar full of whey she'd been collecting from the various stuff she makes from her milk.
How much protein is in raw whey?
How much of it should I put in a shake and what other ingredients should I throw in the blender post workout?
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10-21-2009, 08:50 PM
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I agree with your resolve to move onward from Muscle Milk, but I do not believe that raw whey would really be the answer.
If I remember correctly, a cup of whey has about 2 grams of protein. If that is indeed correct, then you would have to consume an insane amount of whey.
Whey protein powder on the other hand has about 15 grams per tablespoon.
I do not do the whole shake thing, but I sometimes make protein water for an after training treat. I mix 30 grams of protein with 30 grams of dextrose and 30 of maltodextrin in a liter of water.
I do not add anything fancy to the protein water; I usually eat some beans and vegetables soon afterwards, so I do not really need much else.
I know I did not really address your concerns, but that is all I have. Hopefully someone else will chime in.
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10-22-2009, 08:33 AM
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Whey runs about 34% protein "dry weight". With the amount of water in the raw state it'll take a lot of material to make a scoop of protein.
Have you ever tried drinking this stuff? Really nasty stuff. Just being in the same building as they process it makes me ill.
By the time you add enough stuff to make it drinkable it's not the same. If you can take it straight you're a stronger person than I will ever be.
However you can add much better ingredients than what's in MM. You'll need some sort of sweetener, stevia, whatever you like, fruit, etc. I would do strawberries and banana if it were me.
But you'll still be low on protein. You could add cottage cheese, yogurt to bump up the protein.
By the time you get done with all of that, is it really the same? I'm not sure its not better to just buy some pure whey with minimal additives.
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10-22-2009, 10:08 AM
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Cottage cheese and/or farmer's cheese and/or ricotta cheese would make good alternatives to protein powder. Check the nutritional breakdown next time you're at the store.
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10-22-2009, 10:09 AM
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How complicated a process would it be to dry it out or extract the protein somehow?
Forgoing the raw whey, does anybody have any recipes for all natural post workout shakes that include a decent amount of protein?
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10-22-2009, 12:55 PM
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if you want natural protein, how about some spurulina, the algae loaded with complete protein? The stuff I have has 16 grams of protein per ounce.
The only downside to spurulina is that it tastes like seaweed and it is a very dominant taste. Sometimes I will pour some on a bowl of beans, but it might be unacceptable if you have a delicate palate.
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10-23-2009, 12:11 PM
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I agree to consume a whey protein without all the artificial stuff, but raw whey? No way! Try just a simple, unflavored protein powder. I get a good one at All Natural Bulk Foods: Whey Protein, Powdered NonFat Dry Milk, Bovine Colostrum Powder, Vegan Vegetable Protein, Goat Protein Powder - Wholesale Direct Bulk Food. Because it's unflavored, it doesn't have anything artificial added; just pure whey protein. And with 27 grams of protein per scoop, you won't have to consume as much of this as you would of the raw whey. Looking for good recipes? The site has a bunch listed. Because it's unflavored, it's not only easy to add to shakes but also to most meals without changing the flavor. Hope that helps!
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10-23-2009, 04:22 PM
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as an addendum to what has been said above, I used to get hydrolized protein powder because statistically it has better numbers. It is also extra bitter. So, I started getting unhydrolized protein powder. Its numbers are not quite as high, but I can drink it straight without it tasting like ass, as an Australian friend puts it.
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11-06-2009, 07:41 PM
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Whey is great, but as you know, it's important to get the right one. As you've probably learned from your mother, raw milk is so much better than pasteurized. Raw milk from grass fed cows is even better though, and a whey protein from grass fed cows is the best choice. Most powders I've tried come with bloating due to the pasteurization, but the one I get from Dr Mercola's site is the best I've ever tried. It's a little pricey, but when it comes to your health, it's worth it. Protein Powders | Whey Protein, Vegetarian Pea Protein
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