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    jimboob is offline Junior Member
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    Default how does the warrior diet NOT make you fat?

    i always thought that sumo wrestlers ate similair to the warrior diet. do you need to follow a strict workout routine? is it in the way you eat that main meal? I can't tell if i'm gaining weight or slimming down, but i havent been excercising too much lately

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    Dano3000 is offline Senior Member
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    Sumo wrestlers, you might find, are fat because they are known to eat up to 12,000 calories a day, and sometimes more.
    Anorexics, as well, are emaciated because they can eat as little as 100-200 calories a day.
    Would an anorexic eating 200 calories in the morning be more emaciated than an anorexic eating 200 calories at night? Absolutely not. Neither would binge eater who eats 10,000 calories in the morning be thinner than a binge eater who eats 10,000 calories at night.
    If you were to eat 3000 calories a night, guess what? You would gain weight. If you were to eat 1500 a night, you would lose weight. The warrior diet works the way it does because its easier to control calorie intake when you limit the amount of time you can eat. I, having followed it for about three years, see no getting around this. Weight loss still requires the eating of less calorie dense food and/or less calories in general. The warrior diet and other forms of IF just make it easier to do for some people.

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    Default Reading is a start...

    Did you read the book or just get the part of eating in a 4 hour window at night? There is a lot that goes into the Warrior Diet, even if the 20/4 is all you initially see. Ori talks at great length about food choices. As someone who lost a lot of weight while getting stronger on the Warrior Diet, I'll provide you a break down to think about. I don't currently practice it but it was a great time for me and I really enjoyed my life style during it.

    Ori talks about light meals during the day if needed, but I felt the best after I decreased my food over time to the point of Water fasting(some black coffee also) and eating after my work out at night. So, in my 4 hours, here is an idea of what I would eat:

    Spinach salad with Tomatoes, Peppers, Carrots, Vinegar.
    Chicken Breast(Large) x1
    Broccoli-2 Cups
    Onion- 1/2
    Mushroom- 2 large caps
    Black beans(2 Cups)

    Shake: Whey Protein, Raspberries, Keifer

    Cottage Cheese and Berries

    I may have a second helping of my main dinner foods two hours later if I was hungry, or have some more salad with chicken on top.

    Really though, due to an emphasis on Vegetables to start, then Meats, then Carbs, it's difficult to over eat. It's possible if you enjoy eating Junk, I could screw up and eat a big bag of chips and ice cream and have a few thousand extra calories and not notice, but that rarely happens. A ton of veggies and meat fills you up.

    Some days I'd eat more, some less. The above doesn't seem like too much, but I'm mainly just rehashing the hour after I exercise. If there is more eating an hour or two later, there is, but it was always quality food.

    Hope this helped.

    Cheers,
    John

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    J,

    I suggest reading the book. I lost 25 pounds LOOSELY following the warrior diet and got motivated enough to start doing some light workouts. I am living with two people who ain't down with it, and we take our dinner together so that's been a challenge.

    I don't have a lot of money for high end fresh foods, so that's another challenge.

    My Doctor can't understand how it works either, but after seeing my blood glucose and other markers improve as I lost weight, she's reading my copy now.

    The pumpkin cheesecake recipe is worth the price of the book. Plus, Ori is a good writer so it's not torture to read. _here_endeth_the_plug_

    Good luck with whatever you decide.

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    jimboob is offline Junior Member
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    yea i think i've been eating too many carbs. i gata buy more veggies to cook up and just make a nice big bowl next to my protien.

    but usually i'd follow to order, salad/protien/carbs, but go a little crazyon the carbs

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    dpluslane1 is offline Senior Member
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    There is also a side e-book called "Warrior Diet for Fat Loss" - if you're serious I would recommend it.

    I gained some weight (8 lbs) doing a muscle building program. I did not want that gain, so I decided to use a program that I KNOW to work for me. The problem with WD - as may have eluded to - is that it's a template - not an "eat as much as you want once a day" program. Raw food "fast" all day, then start your "feast" with clear broth, then green salad, then cooked veges, then protein, THEN carbs if you have room. If you really want a jumpstart then have the main portion (after veges) consist of beans and rice.

    I havw done WD post RKC III workshop and lost 7 pounds in 14 days (With 2 days of VWC added in to my regular training.) I was 5'6" 134 lbs before and went down to 127lbs so it wasnt like I was morbidly obese going into the program and lost a quick few expected lb's. If you work the program the way it's meant, it can really work for you!
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    I've tried the Warrior Diet.

    Does it work? Do you lose weight?

    Sure, because you consume less calories over a 24 hour period. Especially if you don't eat high calorie dense foods. No kidding! Wow, magic!

    However if you can manage to stuff 5000 calories into your evening meal you might not lose weight.

    Eat less, lose weight. That's the magic.

    Put less calories in than come out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PressMan View Post
    ...Eat less, lose weight. That's the magic...
    I think there's more to the story than that. I think timing has something to do with it as well.

    Here's why: when you fast for 20 hrs a day, there's a period of time that there's very little calories in your digestive tract to use for energy. For example, you're 16 hrs into your fast and you walk out to the mail box. Where does that energy come from? The body only has a two choices: muscle and fat tissue. As fat is more calorie dense, the human body will burn fat tissue first. If you have food in your digestive tract and you walk out to the mail box, at least some of the calories to sustain that activity will come from your digestive tract.

    I don't follow the warrior diet (20/4) but I do mostly follow fast 5 (19/5). I dropped 15 pounds and kept it off following fast 5. I've been doing this for about 4 months now...

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    Sasa Rajnovic RKC is offline Junior Member
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    I am eating like a warrior for 2+ years. Started with about 65 - 68 kg of bodyweight. My weight did not change... Meaning, one can eat as Ori prescribes without gaining weight. Warrior diet is not good only for losing weight, this is something to stick with for a lifetime if you like. My training has never been better.

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    jimboob is offline Junior Member
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    I'm just still confused as to how your body doesnt store that main meal up as fat to prepare itself for the next "fast"

    or is that where breakfast comes in? should you still eat something after waking up to let your body think theres food around? even if its just an apple or something?

    BTW im new to this forum, this is the only place i've found people that follow the WD, thanks for the help guys

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