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    Stovin is offline Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbpaul View Post
    ...Anyone else get the book?
    Yes, I am enjoying the book. And I have been on the "slow-carb diet" since Christmas day. I especially liked the feast day and am looking forward to bacon & eggs and cheeseburgers and ice cream this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovin View Post
    Yes, I am enjoying the book. And I have been on the "slow-carb diet" since Christmas day. I especially liked the feast day and am looking forward to bacon & eggs and cheeseburgers and ice cream this weekend.
    Yes, my wifey will be making beef stroganoff this Sat. (my cheat day) and i will eat as much noodles as i want......along with anything else i want to eat.....everything that I've been craving all week. AND..... as long as i follow what The 4HB book says, i wont have to worry about the junk food storing in my body! I love the anticipation of weighing myself on the morning of my cheat day, can't wait to see how much more I've lost.

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    Semondies....You question why i would even have a cheat day? lol You have to enjoy life! I mean, if i could be happy by eating only the best foods out there, i guess i would. DO YOU only eat a super strict diet? (if so, you are, good for you, you are probably 1 in a million) I doubt it! What are your stats? Height? Weight? Body fat %?

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    I'm loving this book. I like the "permission" to just keep eating the same thing and have a binge day. It helps me put off old bad favorites and I probably won't get to a lot of them. Started Monday. Haven't weighed. Did 160 KB swings, 30 cat vomits, 20 myotats because it is simple, at home, quick, and easy to start. Seeing a wee bit of a 4-pack. He just keeps it simple, which is funny because he definitely delves into the complex to get there as he studies himself and keeps stats. Tomorrow is my binge day. There will be fried chicken. Monday I was at 30% body fat by my Tanita scales. We'll see.

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    I think what Semonides was trying get at was if you feel great eating healthy the other days and feel like crap after eating whatever you want, why not just eat healthy 100% of the time. I recently came off of a "cheat weekend" on New Year's weekend, and it was a great reminder of why I try to eat clean most days. I found myself uncomfortably full, and still craving more carbs. It took me about three days to recover from my cheat weekend, and I am now leaner today than I was 9 days ago (barely after lots of hard work). I feel it is important to enjoy life as well, but every time I cheat, it makes me not want to cheat for a long time. I find that the longer I abstain from certain foods, the more and more they really don't taste pleasant. Certain high carb and high processed fat foods are way too aggressive for my palate now, and they were at one point the main staple of my diet.
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    hey thanks for clarifying my opaque prose.

    I am just signing in to sign-off. All this talk of syncopating and starving just to find a way to fit junk food into the diet is so far removed from where I'm coming from.

    I'm off to find a place where I can feel come fraternity with people who don't cut corners and have a modicum of discipline. Wish me luck, I'll undoubtably need it.

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    You need to take into account that the 4HB is a whole bunch of experiments. The fact that Tim ate himself sick on crap doesn't imply that you should, it was merely one of his experiments to measure the effects of such gluttony.

    Generally speaking, this isn't a book that you follow to the letter. Find something that interests you, try it, measure the results.

    I was recently on holiday for 4 days, I ate and drank what I liked for those 4 days. I weighed myself when I got back, I gained 5 Kg. After 2 days on my normal diet (PN oriented but I don't eat 5-6 meals a day) I dropped 3Kg, after a 5 days I was back to where I was before my holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semonides View Post
    hey thanks for clarifying my opaque prose.

    I am just signing in to sign-off. All this talk of syncopating and starving just to find a way to fit junk food into the diet is so far removed from where I'm coming from.

    I'm off to find a place where I can feel come fraternity with people who don't cut corners and have a modicum of discipline. Wish me luck, I'll undoubtably need it.


    You know one of the things that keeps me coming back to Pavel's Dragon Door?

    He had a quote I tell everybody ... "If I don't know, I don't say."

    I do my best to remember it when I'm about to run my mouth willy-nilly.

    You're making it sound like people are undisciplined and you just showed how much you don't know. Ferriss says it is important to spike caloric intake once a week. It causes hormonal changes that improve fat loss. He goes on to to talk about cAMP and GMP increase and conversion of T4 thyroid hormone and active T3.

    That's waaaaayyyy different from people just wanting to lose all discipline. I don't remember him saying it made him feel bad, either. Sounds like he enjoys binge day.

    Now I think I'll go indignantly sign off and see if I can find some eggberts with whom I can feel comfortable.

    PS - I sometimes do have a problem with discipline, too. But that's a different matter entirely.

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    Plus I think you find the adherence rate a lot higher when a binge day is included, most people just aren't that disciplined, its not like you have to eat 10k calories on binge day, just enjoy the stuff you wouldn't on the other days, have a milk shake or something. I happen to be fairly disciplined but mostly just because I can't really afford to eat a lot or binge very often.

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    OK....week 2 ended and i lost another 2 lbs. I lost 7 lbs after the 1st week, so i was a little bummed that it was only 2lbs. BUT, i know what part of the diet to tweak. I will not have any diet soda, or coffee creamers this week.....& I will only have two servings of re-fried beans (too much sodium). Can't wait to see the results on Sat morning........if any.

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