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    jetronin is offline Senior Member
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    Default Overeating phase,minus the dairy and carbs?

    Warrior diet users,hello.
    I've been on the warrior plan for around two weeks.Prior to being on warrior i hadn't eaten dairy or grains for months.I decided to re-introduce them into my diet during the overeating phase,primarily to get the best possible nutrition during the four hours or so that i do eat in the evening.
    However,after two weeks,dairy and grains simply do not agree with me.My stomach feels bloated and uncomfortable,and still feels that way the morning after.I thought that perhaps the symptoms would subside after a short spell,but that doesn't appear to be the case.
    So i suppose the question is,what would you do/eat instead?
    Would you simply add different types of meat and add more veggies.Use different types of milk?Or increase the amount of nuts used at the end of the meal?
    Any ideas?
    Cheers

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    Kettlebell Gamer is offline Junior Member
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    Well I just started the warrior diet about two weeks ago also so I don't have lots of experience with it, but I just wanted to share how I eat during the evening. I usually just have lots of veggies and meat with some EFAs from almonds or oliveoil. I cut out grains and I never feel bloated so thats probrably your problem. As for dairy, the only dairy I eat occasionally during the overeating phase is cottage cheese with peanut or almond butter and I end up feeling fine. If your looking to replace the dairy/grains, I would do it with nuts, nut butters, eggs with yolks, olive oil, legumes, or maybe starcy veggies like sweet potatoes. Also IMO staying away from grains or flour products helps with fat loss, dunno if thats your goal tho.

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    jetronin is offline Senior Member
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    Extra eggs,extra legumes,sweet potatoes...
    I can live with that.Will give that a try.
    My overeating usually goes something like this-
    Leafy salad with oil,veggie soup,meat course,cheese and oatcakes,banana milk with nuts and yoghurt on the side.As said,the milk and starchy grains don't seem to be agreeing with me.

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    mrMushroom is offline Senior Member
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    Are the carbs from wholegrain?

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    Default Eat yourelf stupid.

    Dude, you are EXTREMELY underweight, fuck worrying about carbs, you need to POUND the food down. 4000 cal a day for you and no less, the above comrades 1 gram or more per pound of body weight for protein consumption is good, although 1.5 may be better.

    If you wanna gain weight and you're really that skinny (i was a one point), eating needs to be your JOB. Unless your full to the point that you don't want to eat more, keep eating. If your ever "not hungry but not not hungry", then you need to eat. If you can eat, eat. Take it from a former 5'11'' 130 lb guy whos a 170 at 6% now.

    A great strategy is GOMAD (gallon of milk a day). Just make sure you get those calories in man.

    Also while ETK is great, it probably not quite the best for muscle gain, (although it is good).

    I would alternate 2 to 3 weeks of the PM with 2 to 3 weeks of starting strength by mark rip toe.

    Good luck (although you won't need if you're smart)

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    jetronin is offline Senior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by iodinegrowth7 View Post
    Dude, you are EXTREMELY underweight, fuck worrying about carbs, you need to POUND the food down. 4000 cal a day for you and no less, the above comrades 1 gram or more per pound of body weight for protein consumption is good, although 1.5 may be better.

    If you wanna gain weight and you're really that skinny (i was a one point), eating needs to be your JOB. Unless your full to the point that you don't want to eat more, keep eating. If your ever "not hungry but not not hungry", then you need to eat. If you can eat, eat. Take it from a former 5'11'' 130 lb guy whos a 170 at 6% now.

    A great strategy is GOMAD (gallon of milk a day). Just make sure you get those calories in man.

    Also while ETK is great, it probably not quite the best for muscle gain, (although it is good).

    I would alternate 2 to 3 weeks of the PM with 2 to 3 weeks of starting strength by mark rip toe.

    Good luck (although you won't need if you're smart)
    WTF!
    Who said anything about gaining weight...or me being extremely skinny.My weight and body comp. are fine thanks and i'm happy on bodyweight training too.
    Was this post meant for someone else?
    Btw i've,in the past been 16 stone,consumed a gallon of milk a day,powerlifted,and been on aconstant feeding cycle and it SUCKED.You simply cannot do that long term without feeling like crap and getting fat.
    I'm now a lean,hard 11.5 stone,30.5 inch waist,around 10%(maybe a little under b.f.)@5ft9.
    Why the hell would i want to add loads of lard?

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    How much fiber are you taking in? Just a general question there really.

    Have you tried other forms of dairy? Minimally-processed organic yogurt, goat's milk, kefir and hard cheeses come to mind mainly. I've almost always had dairy in my diet.

    It could be a combination of the fats and live cultures. Are you supplementing live cultures in any way? You may just have to slowly add dairy to the mix. Same thing with grains.

    Have you tried meals with just one or the other added in. I find that some grains are heavy in fiber content and that leads to lots of fun the next day. Takes a good while to get used to that in your diet.

    Don't forget that you've been on WD for a relatively short amount of time. It will take your system a while to get used to it so introducing something you haven't eaten in a while may give you gastric issues.

    You could alternatively try a bit of dairy during the undereating phase as well.
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    Comrade jetronin, I would heed the advice Comrade mc and others have given here - change only one thing at a time. If you're starting the WD, then make that one change your schedule and not the contents of your diet except as you feel any changes based on being on the WD.

    Dairy and grain are two large food groups - you might find you can keep one but not the other, you might find, e.g., you can't drink milk but can eat cheese and/or fermented dairy products like kefir. Keep it simple, change only one variable at a time, and be patient.

    -S-
    Flexibility Guide from kbnj.com

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    jetronin is offline Senior Member
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    Thanks for the well thought out answers.
    I'm applying these principles presently.
    Appreciate the help.

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