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    Northern Kettlebells is offline Senior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by forth View Post
    I'm sorry to say that it will just get worse in this aspect

    But yes, it is very interesting.
    I have realised this with other aspects of nutrition and exercise as well.

    I think I have a reasonable amount of knowledge on a subject, then when I research it further I realise how little I did know!

    I do enjoy researching and learning though

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    If we rely on fats for our energy, our body will become very efficient relying on fats for our energy. If we consume too many carbs, our system converts the excess to fat. A low carb - high fat diet is more efficient for us and will keep us in our natural balance.
    Paleo really works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Schutz View Post
    If we rely on fats for our energy, our body will become very efficient relying on fats for our energy. If we consume too many carbs, our system converts the excess to fat. A low carb - high fat diet is more efficient for us and will keep us in our natural balance.
    Paleo really works.
    I agree Mike...go figure...science works...who would have thunk it! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Schutz View Post
    If we rely on fats for our energy, our body will become very efficient relying on fats for our energy. If we consume too many carbs, our system converts the excess to fat. A low carb - high fat diet is more efficient for us and will keep us in our natural balance.
    Paleo really works.
    This is not correct. Turning carbs into fat is not something normally done in the human metabolism. And while there is seen some increase in fat metabolism after a while in ketosis it doesn't really become that much more efficient. In fact the body is much better at storing fat than carbs.. and if you take someone like me going low carb - high fat is a sure way to rack up the bodyfat% .. so easy to just overeat and overeat, and your body is so good at storing fat its quite incredible.

    So yes, science works... paleo is not science.

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    Carbohydrates gives you strength. Here in Philippines we eat rice as our source of carbohydrates. Makes us stronger and healthier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forth View Post
    This is not correct. Turning carbs into fat is not something normally done in the human metabolism. And while there is seen some increase in fat metabolism after a while in ketosis it doesn't really become that much more efficient. In fact the body is much better at storing fat than carbs.. and if you take someone like me going low carb - high fat is a sure way to rack up the bodyfat% .. so easy to just overeat and overeat, and your body is so good at storing fat its quite incredible.

    So yes, science works... paleo is not science.
    Forth, paleo didn't work for you, and the macro split you advocate doesn't work for me. That doesn't mean there isn't science behind paleo or that there isn't science behind the plan you like.

    (and paleo doesn't necessarily mean low-carb, let alone keto.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcneuen View Post
    Forth, paleo didn't work for you, and the macro split you advocate doesn't work for me. That doesn't mean there isn't science behind paleo or that there isn't science behind the plan you like.

    (and paleo doesn't necessarily mean low-carb, let alone keto.)
    Paleo definitely does not mean low-carb. Vegetables have carbs, Fruits have carbs, Nuts have carbs, and seeds have carbs.

    That being said, there is NOTHING in grains that you can't get from something else. Also, if someone sees me eat a sandwich or a sub, it doesn't mean I think its healthy, I may just think its yummy....
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    For most of the viewers of this forum carbs should be consumed post workout. This is only to replenish your muscles. If you follow a low carb(fruits and veggies only) eating plan and are sedentary you don't need any other carbs in your diet. Of course, as in all matters dealing with your health check with your doctor. Just realize they are very risk adverse and will simply state the conventional wisdom. Research this for yourself and you will find the necessary evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quedash View Post
    For most of the viewers of this forum carbs should be consumed post workout. This is only to replenish your muscles. If you follow a low carb(fruits and veggies only) eating plan and are sedentary you don't need any other carbs in your diet. Of course, as in all matters dealing with your health check with your doctor. Just realize they are very risk adverse and will simply state the conventional wisdom. Research this for yourself and you will find the necessary evidence.
    Most of the world is on a "starch" centered diet...different grains, sweet potatoes, etc. Asia, the Mediterranean regions. The rest of the world is also leaner and healthier than the US is, and, they don't have the horrible problems we do with pig @#$% destroying rivers in the Carolinas, toxic chicken crap and urine destroying the air and waterways of Arkansas nor the cow manure skyscrapers near Lodi, California that range up to three stories. We're tearing up the rain forests to produce even more beef to meet US demands.

    There's enough evidence via peer reviewed research to show humans live longer and healthier on "starch" (not refined carbs or processed proteins) than 'meat' centric diets.

    It may not matter to anyone now, but, I've never seen anyone say your health is dependent on a meat centric diet, but, I have seen heart disease and cancer halted or reversed on a starch/vegetable/fruit centric diet.

    A little protein--good stuff, but, real carbs? Will cut your food bill costs significantly, help the environment and potentially do wonders for your health.

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    I'm in the Paleo camp, but not because it is what our ancestors ate, because it just makes good common sense to me. It is really a no brainer that the less processed and natural your food is the better it is for you.

    I have food allergies/sensativities though. I have problems with diary, grains (except I can have wild rice), and beans. Also if I eat to many carbs at once I fall asleep so I dont' eat potatoes much either. So Paleo fit right in line with how I need to eat to feel my best. Although I went on Paleo because I was pretty much addicted to sugar, I needed to get off all the processed foods I was eating. That is when I discovered the issue with the grains.

    As with anything what works for some will not work for others. However, I do want to add a lot of the other countries are "healthier" because #1 their portion sizes are a hell of a lot smaller and #2 they tend to eat fresher foods then we do, ie less highly processed foods. As the world is starting to pick up more of our habbits with the junk food, they are starting to become fat and ill like we are. Look up the end to the Medditeranian Diet and you will see what I mean.

    As always it is about how much and what you eat.

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