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Thread: Is Precision Nutrition all that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFreides View Post
    Comrade forth, I will protest. First, if Comrade mc thinks it's worthwhile, that's endorsement enough for me.
    why steve, i am moved. thank you.

    you know i've never said the WD doesn't work; i've only taken issue with the claims about WHY it works


    Second, I have heard many people complain that Pavel's books are overpriced, and I don't agree with that, either. If it changes your life for the better, then it's worth $97 or $197 or $1097. The devil is often in the details - I've heard the same complaint about the Warrior Diet book, but I find that both the Warrior Diet book and Ori's other boo, the Anti-Estrogenic Diet, are very well worth their cover prices. In Ori's case, I think the whole is greater than the sum of the parts and one gets a better understanding by reading both of his book on this subject than one can possibly get from reading only one of them.

    NB: I get cranky when people complain about stuff that works being overpriced. Precision Nutrition has worked for a lot of people, and while I do acknowledge that you're entitled to your opinion, I don't accept that you can decide whether or not what's in the book is worth it to someone else.

    Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

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    i guess we share "opinions" steve - but if so they're informed by science practice: science rarely claims a general case without sufficient and signficant evidence. So i get a bit surprised when folks assert opinion that because this strategy is not what they need, it's bogus, filler, dross.

    Especially around nutrition where so many folks i've worked with are already so stressed around diet that they just don't have the resources to pull together stuff that's just "out there" - if that worked there's only be one version of any information from calculus texts to diets.

    anyway, thank you for your kind words. And for those who don't know, steve has awesome brick abs - he likely could beat houdini in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc View Post
    So i get a bit surprised when folks assert opinion that because this strategy is not what they need, it's bogus, filler, dross.
    I hope you're not aiming this at me because I sure have never claimed that PN is any of these. Actually no one in this thread is claiming PN is not quite a nice system for a lot of people.

    Otoh is surely not "all that".

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    Quote Originally Posted by forth View Post
    I hope you're not aiming this at me because I sure have never claimed that PN is any of these. Actually no one in this thread is claiming PN is not quite a nice system for a lot of people.

    Otoh is surely not "all that".
    Well, no, you did not use the words "bogus" or "dross," but in your post #19, you did in fact use the word "filler." You characterized Precision Nutrition as some eating guidelines that are available for free elsewhere, and the rest of the material as "filler."

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    Why not just eat a balanced diet?

    Pretty simple:

    - Lots of water
    - Lots of vegetables
    - Lean proteins
    - Healthy fats
    - Small amounts of low Gi fruit
    - GI-friendly carbs like sweet potatoes, steel cut oats

    Not really complicated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trench_21 View Post
    Well, no, you did not use the words "bogus" or "dross," but in your post #19, you did in fact use the word "filler." You characterized Precision Nutrition as some eating guidelines that are available for free elsewhere, and the rest of the material as "filler."
    That's correct. All that could easily be discarded and they could just sell a 5 page ebook for $2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howies81 View Post
    Hi all,

    I would like to know if Precision Nutrition by John Berardi is worth considering?
    Whatever you think of the system, unlike nearly everyone else out there selling books, when you see a photoshop of a series of books, you actually get those books.

    Drives me crazy when guys sell an ebook and access to online videos, and yet show many photoshop mockups of binders, DVDs, manuals, etc. It is misleading and dishonest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forth View Post
    That's correct. All that could easily be discarded and they could just sell a 5 page ebook for $2.
    So you claimed in your previous response to mc, in post #22, that you never called called PN "filler" ("I sure have never claimed that PN is any of these," you wrote). And now you're calling it filler, just as you did in your post #19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trench_21 View Post
    So you claimed in your previous response to mc, in post #22, that you never called called PN "filler" ("I sure have never claimed that PN is any of these," you wrote). And now you're calling it filler, just as you did in your post #19.
    No. I am saying that PN is a perfectly fine system to use. Just that most of the stuff you get for the $97 (cookbooks, etc.) is just filler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forth View Post
    No. I am saying that PN is a perfectly fine system to use. Just that most of the stuff you get for the $97 (cookbooks, etc.) is just filler.
    Hence my question? ))

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