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    Question Is Precision Nutrition all that?

    Hi all,

    I would like to know if Precision Nutrition by John Berardi is worth considering?
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    Hi

    I would definitely recommend it. The principles in Precision Nutrition really got my eating and health on track. The recipe books are also great. I make meals from them all the time and they taste pretty good. From there I got into the Paleo diet but I've slowly gone back to a more Precision Nutrition way of eating which allows for some grains and legumes as long as your eating them at the right times.

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    here's a free way to explore PN - 40+ page ebook
    here's a post that references a bunch of other detailed posts too about PN as effective and in it for the long haul rather than something one does for 60 days as a diet.
    And a case study transformation

    Hope that helps

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    Yes, PN is a long term plan for healty eating. Certainly worth the investment to understand and build into your daily habits.

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    Comrade mc, eating lunch makes you weak. Other than that, Precision Nutrition is a fine plan.



    Sorry, I couldn't resist. I was complaining about lunch at the RKC this past weekend and needed to carry on with the theme.

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    Yes, PN is worth considering. Though it makes some odd claims about how often you need to eat and acid-alkaline balance. Skip those parts.. and all the parts claiming that breakfast, lunch, snacks, etc. are important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forth View Post
    Yes, PN is worth considering. Though it makes some odd claims about how often you need to eat and acid-alkaline balance. Skip those parts.. and all the parts claiming that breakfast, lunch, snacks, etc. are important.
    er what odd claims?
    you may be out of date with the latest PN that's in line with
    a) current research on meal timing and
    b) 1000s of clients' experience.

    for example, it's berardi who just posted this reference:
    http://www.jissn.com/content/8/1/4
    writing "BTW, don't make the mistake of assuming that because meal frequency doesn't necessarily speed up the metabolism it's worthless. No, no, no. There are still some good uses of BOTH increased AND decreased meal frequency."

    hell - there's even work on intermittent fasting happening.

    so PN moves with what it learns in science and practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc View Post
    er what odd claims?
    you may be out of date with the latest PN that's in line with
    a) current research on meal timing and
    b) 1000s of clients' experience.

    for example, it's berardi who just posted this reference:
    http://www.jissn.com/content/8/1/4
    writing "BTW, don't make the mistake of assuming that because meal frequency doesn't necessarily speed up the metabolism it's worthless. No, no, no. There are still some good uses of BOTH increased AND decreased meal frequency."

    hell - there's even work on intermittent fasting happening.

    so PN moves with what it learns in science and practice.

    mc
    The conclusion pretty much says it all.

    Taking all of this into account, it appears from the existing (albeit limited) body of research that increased meal frequency may not play a significant role in weight loss/gain when under-reporting, restrained eating, and exercise are accounted for in the statistical analyses. Furthermore, most, but not all of the existing research, fails to support the effectiveness of increased meal frequency on the thermic effect of food, resting metabolic rate, and total energy expenditure.
    How does this rhyme with anything in the PDF you linked to? It says eating every 2-3 hour is a must.. that's like a 3rd of it the whole thing.


    and getting clients to get fit by getting their diet to switch to a caloric deficit and high protein is nothing new under the sun.

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    Actually buying a copy of the Purposeful Primitive from this site will tell you as much as you really need to know about diet for performance. It covers the Warrior style diets and the 6 meal a day PN style diets both. It also tells under which conditions each diet is most effective. There is no magic diet because we are all individuals and we all respond differently to different diet approaches, so understanding a set of principles is really more valuable than just learning one approach.
    "A warrior takes his lot, whatever it may be, and accepts it in ultimate humbleness. He accepts in humbleness what he is, not as grounds for regret but as a living challenge." - Carlos Castaneda

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