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    kbSagoo is offline Senior Member
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    Delaine Ross posted this on Facebook, interesting reading: World Renown Heart Surgeon Speaks Out On What Really Causes Heart Disease

    "The science that saturated fat alone causes heart disease is non-existent. The science that saturated fat raises blood cholesterol is also very weak. Since we now know that cholesterol is not the cause of heart disease, the concern about saturated fat is even more absurd today."

    His main concern is the inflammatory effects of food causing cholesterol buildup. Processed foods, foods high in sugar, food made from the likes of corn and soybean oils.

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    Thank you for your post, I will read the article.

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    Hi Jbenton,

    Did you realize that your cholesterol number gleaned from a properly conducted fasting blood test will give you a result with an error margin of approx. +/- 8 points? It will also vary that much or more due to stress, present state (over trained = higher number for instance) if you are ill etc. etc. etc.

    Your move from a 216 to a 222 in a year's time may just be the normal variation within your own body, or the variation within the test itself! Even the move to the 240's in and of itself does not really mean anything. This is why a doctor will not put you on meds based on a single test. A baseline over time needs to be established.

    The saturated fat / cholesterol / heart disease link has been pretty well thrashed in studies over the last 10 years or so. In fact recent studies are linking these fats to a reduction in some forms of cancer (ovarian, breast, splenic) so what does this mean? High sat-fats cause cancer and at the same time reduce your risk for cancer?

    The bottom line is that this is very complex and not well understood. It's a bit like trying to squish down a balloon. As soon as up press in one area (or think we know something) another area pops out (or we find a contradiction to our previously known 'truth').

    Historically meat has been a component of pretty much every people-groups diets. A vegetarian diet is an advent of the modern age. This historical consumption of meat does not seem to have negatively affected the human race, in fact the cultures with higher meat consumption typically had longer life-spans, lower child mortality rates etc.

    Science pretty much keeps regressing to the mean (a statistics term ... if more knew statistics there would be less of the junk science that started this thread). In other words, we keep returning to "what we once knew" and that seems to be moderation is the best path ... whether it's in diet, exercise or anything else.

    My $0.02 worth.

    Cheers,
    Be well ... Lee.

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