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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    I've heard great things about the Burn Program! Does that plan deal with fasting?
    Both Burn 2.0 and Burn Extreme have some fasting built in, yeah. Specifically one day of fasting / week. Very much enjoying the Extreme..

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    Awesome! Would you consider Burn to be an advanced program?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    Awesome! Would you consider Burn to be an advanced program?
    I'm not 100% sure what people even mean with advanced.. KB Burn is presses, goblet squats, lunges, rows, get ups, swings and snatches. All one arm. Spread over iirc 16 weeks of training. No, I would not consider it advanced.

    Burn Extreme otoh is four weeks of double kettlebell work. Provided you have the technique down it's nothing especially advanced.

    The one arm Burn 16 week thing was not quite my cup of tea.. I much prefer the 4 much rougher weeks of the extreme.

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    ah okay. Because I know KB Muscle deals with doubles and I was curious if Burn did too. 4 weeks of full intensity is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    ah okay. Because I know KB Muscle deals with doubles and I was curious if Burn did too. 4 weeks of full intensity is the way to go.
    Yup. KB Extreme is all double work. 6 days / week. KB Muscle has things like the double snatch.. so that requires quite some more lifting skill. And it lacks the strict dietary regimen.

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    dang. I'm sure the results are there though! I plan on completing all of the RoP numbers before doing anything else. I've heard great things about Muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    dang. I'm sure the results are there though! I plan on completing all of the RoP numbers before doing anything else. I've heard great things about Muscle.
    Depending on where you're at you might have better luck at getting your press numbers by following the routine from "Perfecting the Press" instead of doing the RoP.

    I'm down about 17lbs at the moment. a couple of more days left. So I imagine after I have done refeeding and filled up on more glycogen again I'll come in at 15-16lbs lost in these four weeks of the burn extreme. And my work capacity has gone up during these weeks. Probably I have lost a few lbs in the squat and what not but I'm not a competition lifter so I don't really care.

    All in all of the things I have tried of Geoff's (Burn 2.0, Muscle, Burn Extreme) this is by far my favourite. Having much more success with this than the Muscle for sure. Might go on the Muscle again sometime though. It's a .... fun.. program.

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    I've heard about that book. That's allot of weight that you lost and coupled with your work capacity going up it can't get better than that. How do you eat when you try to put on size Forth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    I've heard about that book. That's allot of weight that you lost and coupled with your work capacity going up it can't get better than that. How do you eat when you try to put on size Forth?
    Putting on weight (not always beneficial size) comes kinda naturally to me.. I just eat.. easily 4000kcal daily. I'm quite a fan of meat & potatoes, rice and chicken, etc. also I down quite a bit of protein powder and eat a lot of cookies and snickers. Being in Sweden I buy a big amount of german quark and mix with everything I can get my hand on (garlic, protein powder, sweeter + chocolate + peanut butter)... lotsa fullfat milk. Big salmon fan (buy 'em whole and put in the oven with ... stuff). I like cooking in general so making huge meals is not a big issue for me. Usually just put big chunks of whatever meat in my claypot and cook up in the oven. Also living in Malmö I eat a good amount of kebab and falafel + french fries. Cookin' huge loads of chili is super too, obviously.

    I did Dan Johns excellent Mass Made Simple last year and it kinda advocates the "slow carb" style but that isn't quite my cup o' tea. I think I was downing about 5000kcal daily on it.


    Mostly I eat "real food," with the added tweak that I consider protein powder as being "real food." and I eat a lot of powder.

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    I put on non beneficial weight easily too. When I get through with the RoP, I'll move on to KB Muscle.

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