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    Quote Originally Posted by jetronin View Post
    Haven't tried all three.
    Warrior works well for me though. Keeps my weight stable, B.F. around 10% and I don't need to over-think mealtime. It's almost idiot-proof.
    Which is probably why it suits me.......
    Lol. It's far from idiot proof in my (and actually some former top RKCs') experience. I put on quite a bit of extra fat on WD. The whole "eat until you are full" thing just dun work for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    It reminds me also of the Warrior Diet. I like to keep it clean also. Also Forth, I wonder how peoples blood results are on this diet.
    Don't really see much reason why the blood work would be anything bad. Keeping fit usually gives you good blood work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forth View Post
    Lol. It's far from idiot proof in my (and actually some former top RKCs') experience. I put on quite a bit of extra fat on WD. The whole "eat until you are full" thing just dun work for me.


    Yeah, I'll give you that. During my RKC prep, I found myself eating way more pasta and bread that I normally would have (KB lifting makes me a ravenous eating machine) and I ended up carrying more Bodyfat than i was comfortable with. But, I've since found that minimizing my carb intake to mostly oatmeal seems to stop that happening. I eat LOADS of fats and proteins now too. Seriously, cottage cheese, eggs meat and oatmeal make up 4 out of 5 meals and the 5th would be meat and potatoes. Took a little time to get it right for me, but once you get it down........Like I said...ALMOST idiot-proof. I does take a little "tweaking" to get it right.
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    There's definitely allot of tweaking with the WD. Have any of you guys tried eating primal / paleo with no fasting at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetronin View Post
    Yeah, I'll give you that. During my RKC prep, I found myself eating way more pasta and bread that I normally would have (KB lifting makes me a ravenous eating machine) and I ended up carrying more Bodyfat than i was comfortable with. But, I've since found that minimizing my carb intake to mostly oatmeal seems to stop that happening. I eat LOADS of fats and proteins now too. Seriously, cottage cheese, eggs meat and oatmeal make up 4 out of 5 meals and the 5th would be meat and potatoes. Took a little time to get it right for me, but once you get it down........Like I said...ALMOST idiot-proof. I does take a little "tweaking" to get it right.
    For me it fails because it basically says eat until full. Never gonna work for me. Calories must be counted or I gain weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    There's definitely allot of tweaking with the WD. Have any of you guys tried eating primal / paleo with no fasting at all?
    Aye, spent a little under a year on paleo. Very good for getting lean. Really hard to put on bodyfat if you're strict.
    Personally, i shifted onto Warrior because I wasn't getting hungry until later in the day, and I like dairy products so it was a natural progression. But if you like to eat and aren't into fasting, then paleo would be a good fit.
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    I love Warrior. I'm trying out the Primal Blueprint right now. I was fairly hungry during lunch so I had some of the PB foods. I am now tired, maybe it takes some getting used to, after Warrior Dieting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikeman1444 View Post
    I love Warrior. I'm trying out the Primal Blueprint right now. I was fairly hungry during lunch so I had some of the PB foods. I am now tired, maybe it takes some getting used to, after Warrior Dieting?
    Yes. After a while on regimented diet, people adapt (both physiologically and psychologically) to the eating pattern, and by that I mean they get systematically used to that way of eating. In fact, that is why I try to stay away from a regimented eating habit, and just eat whenever and whatever I feel like for the most part. If you never regiment anything, your habits can never trick you into eating too much or too little. Not sure if this idea is grounded in enough science to become a full-fledged way of eating (stomach confusion instead of muscle confusion?), but for the last 3 months it has my favorite eating methodology.

    And from my experience with coming out of the WD or something similar, you should stop feeling groggy after your bigger morning and afternoon meals within 3 days.

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    I don't think the WD says to eat until you're full. Just going from memory here but I believe it recommends against drinking while eating and then advises to stop eating when you're more thirsty than hungry. That's a fair distance from eat until you're full.

    IMHO, if you really want to eat until you're full, eat every other day with a 24-hour fast between. If necessary, eat only once a day, every other day. Mind you, I don't recommend this approach, but it's what my gut (pun intended) tells me you'd have to do in order to eat until full every time you eat. If anyone actually tries this, let me know.
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    I agree Steve and thanks for the response kodo! I was reading the Primal Blueprint and Mark Sisson even recommends condensing your eating window to four hours. So is this a Primal Warrior Diet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forth View Post
    For me it fails because it basically says eat until full. Never gonna work for me. Calories must be counted or I gain weight.
    Did you read the book or did you do like some other RKCs and just go by word on the street?
    Did you follow the "rules" Ori has set up?

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