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    I am now into day 5 of WD. I like this diet because it is a perfect fit for me in that I have been a "nocturnal" eater for many years now. I did eat bkfst sometimes and lunch even when not hungry because I had fallen into the belief and propaganda that "skipping meals" was bad. Undereating during the day I found that I do not feel as BLAH as I sometimes do. Thats from the detox effect of eating small amts of raw fruit/vegs. My mind is very much alert and I wake up from sleep anxious to begin a new day. I like this cleansing effect!..The overeating meal, the FEAST - is big. In the 5 days I have not gone to bed hungry. Actually, I feel rather full from eating. Cooked vegs and lean protein - by the book.

    My concern is weight loss. I do hope it is FAT loss. In 4 days - not counting today - I lost 5 lbs. I know from experience and reading up on the subject that too rapid of a drop in weight usually does not end well. I want to preserve as much muscle as I can and maintain strength. I do my 20 minute pwr walk in the early morning - and ETK just before the FEAST. I read and researched the book and Ori states that most muscle will be preserved. I am taking it on faith that this will work.

    I will say that during the 14 day trial where willpower is the driving force to pull me through until enthusium takes up the torch - my decision to abstain from all alchohol is my biggest hurdle. Pizza and Bread too - no bread or pizza - whaaa!. I admit it. I love beer and whiskie. But I made the decision and I will stay on the straight and narrow at least for the 14 day "willpower" trial. After the 14 days I will imbibe a couple of brewskies and see how things go from there and make corrections as needed. And the beer WILL be good! Maybe a splash or two of Laphroig too!

    I am taking in whey protein as a pre/post supplement to my strength training.

    I just want to say that I was shocked to see how my weight has dropped inspite of how humoungous my FEAST meal was. But like I said its been 5 days. I will see how the trend goes when WD is extended out to 14 days in the bag...Dennis

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    ....Continued...
    Also wanted to add that I have only excreated solid waste once in 5 days. I know, too much information!..But I was a bit concerned. The book says that regular elimination will happen on WD. Maybe my body is still adjusting. I will see. Or perhaps most of what I eat is consumed in the blast furnace that my body has become..hehe!!..Dennis

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    Made it through one week of WD. Followed the plan exactly as the book says. THAT IS IMPORTANT. Wt loss for the week is 6.8 lbs. Initially I was worried about my infrequent solid waste elimination - (poop). Solved that problem when I prepared a 15 bean chili meal with ground beef. It worked TOO WELL. I won't elaborate on that experience. After one week I feel this plan is easier than ESE or Slow Carb Diet. I AM NOT HUNGRY AT ALL. In fact I feel that I am not eating enough at the Evening meal as my wt loss is too much. I hope I am retaining muscle. I just get way too full from dinner. I tell you sweet potatoes will fill you up. Time for my 20 minute power walk..hehe!!...Dennis

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    If you keep exercising and take in what the diet recommends in protein you should be able to retain muscle. Just don't expect any type of gains in mass or strength while you are in a weight loss mode.
    Be well ... Lee.

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    Thanks Lee. Yeah I want to get leaner for sure. But also be stronger than I look. Having 20 inch BIs is not one of my goals. Ideally I want to weigh what I weighed when I was 20 years old. 180 lbs. I allowed my weight to shoot up to 215lbs in recent months. At 58 yrs my concerns are oriented more toward pain free movement and heart health. The number on the scale is not as important as numbers on a lab/blood test. Everything else is just frosting on the cake. If I do get the Jersey Shore ripped abs, well then I'll take it..hehe!!
    I am feeling the effects of detox to a large degree now. Not very pleasant. Diahreaha, (sp?) headache, Loss of appetitite. Last night I had to make myself eat. Food had no appeal. All I wanted to do was go to sleep. I did do my Heavy day ETK and felt good about it. I hope the ill effects of this detox process runs its course soon. I know I have decades of toxins deposited all throughout my intestinal tract and stomache. Also in fat cells I believe. I think the detox process is stirring up alot of toxins only to be reabsorbed by the body - which is why I feel crappy. But this is how it works. Kind of like cleaning an old chimmeny that over many years has seen alot of use - but has never been cleaned. When it finally does get cleaned it stirs up quite a mess. So I guess I let the process run its course...Dennis

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    I made it through day 14 on the Warrior Diet. Total weight loss for this 14 day trial comes 10.2 Lbs. In my experience this is by far the easiest diet plan where the weight loss to diet effort ratio is considered where I yielded the largest weight loss in the shortest amount of time. No problems at all with hunger. Totally in control. I find WD much easier than ESE. Buts thats me.

    BUT- I do not know how much weight loss is fat and how much is muscle. I feel no loss in strength as far as my strength training goes. ( my pullup numbers are now rising! Less fat to haul upward?) I suspect there is some muscle loss but I am willing to accept this as long as I lose a larger share of fat in so doing and I stay strong. I needed to address the weight - fat issue if for no other reason than my heart health.

    Problems: Headaches. Diahreaha cha-cha-cha!..Most of my initial weight loss was due to the water loss with diahreaha - and I was drinking as much water as I could to offset my water loss. . This went on for over a week. Maybe its a neccessary evil that must be endured during detox. My bathroom habits have now reverted to normal. My bowels are happy.

    I continue with early morning power walks. I have included walking with my Bulgarian Training Bag. From reading WD I was inspired about Ori relating how early man went hunting during the day. With the BTB I am mimicking what those hunters did as far as carrying the carcus of the deer back to the tribal village. The BTB represents that carcus. The BTB will be my evening feast ..hehe!! I know it sounds stupid but its a motivation/mind game that I play with. Overall 5 stars - for now. But like they say nothing lasts forever. Just enjoying the ride...Dennis

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    31 days! One month in the can! WD weight loss weekly breakdown:

    wk1: 6.4 lbs
    wk2: 3.0 lbs
    wk3: 2.2 lbs
    wk4: 2.8 lbs
    wk5: (partial week) 1.2 lbs

    total wt loss for April is 15.6 lbs - - -I am totally smoked by this! I never been a serious diet guy. Except for a brief time with ESE. I allways put more faith in exercise alone to address my fat loss endevours. I now know that if you have some fat to lose, or you are really, really fat - you have to fix the way you eat PERIOD. If the eating part of the problem is not addressed ( or ignored) then anything else you do is not going to matter in losing weight.

    1st and 2nd weeks had massive water loss and diareaha. Week 3 everything came back to normal and wt loss slowed. No cravings and feel satisfied after overeating. Although alchohol is allowed on WD in moderate amounts, I decided to abstain for the 90 day TRANSFORMATION period in order to assert control and build "mental toughness". I have allways thought that the strength training part of bettering oneself was the easy (and fun) part. Good healthy eating for life and abstaining from those "little sins" over extended time frames is where the "mental toughness" muscle is exercised and is by far my toughest challenge. Yeah I know its been only one month. Lets see if I make it to 90 days or beyond.

    I get a physical exam in a couple of weeks. I am very optimistic about what numbers on my blood work will show. Lets see how much improvement there is in liver and kidney function and cholestral levels (HDL/LDL)..Dennis

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    Great read!
    Keep us up on those blood-tests (before and after-values if possible)!

    Are you doing fruits and vegetables during the day, protein and so on?

    And after your "90 days": I have to add that alcohol can be good, it can be bad. Ex a glass of whine for dinner can be good. 6 beers every night not so. Myself I stick with Tequila or Vodka when I feel like it, just a glass once every 8 weeks or so, and then not until drunk and maybe "just" 8 cl in one evening in front of my favorite pc-game.

    I remember from the book once you are aware of your senses your body will tell you what it needs. Been undereating, overeating and fasting for mroe than 3 years i believe. Could never go back to eating all the time... Don't have time for that!

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    Thanks for the encouragement. I follow the book precisely. I don't even get hungry at all - so my 1st undereating is btwn 2-4pm which is a small bowl of berries and an apple or banana or an orange - sometimes I will have a small bowl of raw vegs instead. My 2nd undereating is about 4 or 5 pm I will have a bowl of miso soup and some almonds. I am a creature of habit, and I like routines - so my undereating is pretty much the same as that is the way I like it. Why bother with choices ( I am not hungry anyway so why complicate things?) I drink black coffee and tea throughout the day - and water in equal amounts. Overeating is also simple - cooked vegs (brocolli, califlower or brusselsprouts with a side of green peas or green beans) red and black beans with chopped onion and peppers and topped with a fried egg followed by either a serving of beef, chicken or fish. Then a sweet potato or quinoa or brown rice. Lastly (sometimes) a serving of stove popped popcorn cooked in coconut oil. Then I am done and quite satisfied - sleepy too! I will have a taste of beer/whiskey around July 4th (holiday). In the meantime I am finding that learning to exert control and discipline in order to rein in irrational urges is something I choose to work on. Keeps me - not my stomache - in charge..hehe!!

    Some differences btwn WD and ESE for me is this: (1). While on ESE I was alot more hungry on fast days. On WD not hungry at all. (2). I did not eat as cleanly on ESE as WD. On ESE I still ate alot of processed food. With WD I am eating alot more clean. (3). Did not exerience de-toxing effects on ESE. WD had me de-toxing out the whazoo. (4). I sleep better on WD than ESE.

    WD definetly is a good fit for me. Before WD I was pretty much a nocturnal eater anyway. So finding an eating plan that fits that scheme was perfect. People who are big eaters ( 3 big meals a day) may have a problem on WD. But most should be able to adapt to it...Dennis
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    How do you find it strength-wise? Still no worries?

    Personally I cannot eat anytime near training, if it is solid food I need more than 3hrs before, even if it is just a tomato and mozzarella salad, protein 2hrs, BCAA/EAA I take right before (side effect helps me drink more water) during and after, then when I get home I start my eating-window.

    A typical day for me is:
    0800-wake up
    0830-coffee
    0900-coffee (bulletproof)
    I drink some bcaa (4:1:1) after this period
    11.00- light protein, cottage cheese.
    1400- protein source, cheese, quark, boiled or raw eggs, or just a salad (always with protein)
    1800- Training
    2000- eating window

    I always aim to get minimum 2g protein/kg bodyweight. And i feel sloppy with carbs so I eat a low carb as in <25g a day. Works for me.

    On weekends (Friday and Saturday) I eat carbs the whole day, will have to switch to better source of carbs, whole grain rice and sweet potato instead of white rice and crisps/chips. On these days I cannot train, I am a zombie, but saturday is well needed rest on the sofa.

    I have also found that red-bull without sugar is fine before/during training, but red-bull with sugar is not, makes me feel weird... Maybe that's because I don't feel like hunting when I am full.

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