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    dkaler is offline Senior Member
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    Just a question for anyone following (or who has followed) the paleo diet. I don't own the book, but I'm trying to follow the diet based on information from other sources. My question is, why are grains not allowed on the diet? My understanding is that, from the perspective of human evolutionary development, the diet follows as closely as possible what humans would have eaten in the pre-agricultural era. But, the fruits, vegetables, nuts, etc., that we eat now bear very little resemblance to their pre-agricultural forms (organic or not). From what I've read, prehistoric people did eat grains in some form or other. But they're disallowed by the diet. Why the double standard for fruits and veggies vis a vis grains? Isn't it possible to eat "good" grains versus the processed crap? I'm not critiquing the diet - I may even buy the book. It's just a question that's been gnawing at me and I'm wondering if the book gives an explanation. Thanks.

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    All these questions are answered extensively in the book. Just get the book.

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    I'm persuaded that only sport and healthy eating can help to lose weight healthy. Any adipex can help.

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    Yeah i completely agree with that..i guess having an healthy lifestyle would ultimately tend to give you a greater life span.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkaler View Post
    Just a question for anyone following (or who has followed) the paleo diet. I don't own the book, but I'm trying to follow the diet based on information from other sources. My question is, why are grains not allowed on the diet? My understanding is that, from the perspective of human evolutionary development, the diet follows as closely as possible what humans would have eaten in the pre-agricultural era. But, the fruits, vegetables, nuts, etc., that we eat now bear very little resemblance to their pre-agricultural forms (organic or not). From what I've read, prehistoric people did eat grains in some form or other. But they're disallowed by the diet. Why the double standard for fruits and veggies vis a vis grains? Isn't it possible to eat "good" grains versus the processed crap? I'm not critiquing the diet - I may even buy the book. It's just a question that's been gnawing at me and I'm wondering if the book gives an explanation. Thanks.
    I guess out of the three replies above, dkaler, I will actually seek to answer your question with a not-so-simple answer...

    Grains are disallowed on the paleo diet simply because grains are horrible for you. Point blank, end of story. Regardless of whether cavemen ate them or not, grains are simply a diabolical substance that the body should avoid like the plague.

    Although the book "Wheat Belly" explains this in much greater detail, grains are one of the most inflammatory substances on the planet, which cause a whole host of health problems with the global inflammation that comes along with it. These include, but are not limited to: cancer, diabetes, hypertension, and chronic pain disorders.

    If you think about it, the goal of every living thing on this planet is to survive to produce offspring, plain and simple. The Paleo diet bans grains because it understands that grains are the same way in that they really don't want to be digested and eaten. Grains contain what have been dubbed "anti-nutrients" to prevent this from happening such as gluten and phytic acid. Phytic acid is the real killer because it chelates, or makes unabsorbable minerals such as Iron and Zinc.

    Grains are absolutely sinister when it comes to a condition that many call "leaky gut" syndrome, where essentially poisons are allowed to pass through the walls of the intestines and enter the blood stream. Grains do a great job of perpetuating this through gluten and phytic acids to break down the microvili on the lining of the intestines.

    And no, there are no "good grains." Since all grains naturally contain these anti-nutrients, almost all claimed nutritional value from grains is negated. It doesn't matter what you put in your mouth, it is all about what enters the bloodstream.
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    Well actually kinda started like this thread..it really has some great discussions on how to get a healthy lifestyle..i really like that.
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    Unlike what you said…grains are actually not believed to have been eaten by humans through a major part of our existence. They shoot up the carbohydrate levels in your body and elevate your insulin levels Grains contribute to increase in digestive problems and obesity, cause what they call leaky gut.

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    good diet is very important to stay healthy. green vegetables , fruits are very healthy diet.

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    Cure Tooth Decay by Ramiel Nagel is actually pretty good on overall nutrition (apparently, good nutrition keeps teeth from degenerating). It mentions grains a bit, but it seems that the grains were sometimes prepared in a way that neutralized the phytic acids or something like that. I guess a lot of probelms came from the idea of "redoing" the human situation. One thing would work, but it's not against the grain, so someone didn't like it.

    I haven't read it all, yet- but an interesting thing on soy was that it's used as a condiment in Asia & it's prepared in a way that neutralizes the toxins in it. Soy actually causes a lot of problems when not used correctly- whether or not it's genetically modified (which causes plenty of issues, in itself- whether it's used as food or it's feed to what is eaten). I believe it mentioned it being fermented (which at least can mean more of a "sifting" process- it separates the useful stuff from the toxins)).

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