Keep getting injured.

[Bradley]

I was moving some furniture and tweaked my right quad tendon. It wasn't an acute injury, but sometime the next day, I felt pain right above the patella, right where I had a partial tear in my left quad tendon. I suspect it was some kind of tearing, but the pain went away and there wasn't significant swelling, so I don't think I need to do anything about. And a doctor I saw completely agreed.

And if I try squatting I hurt my back, or my knees feel off. I don't know what to do. I've sought help from Dr's and PT's but they tell me everything is fine. If that were true, I wouldn't have these problems. I can't make progress because no matter what I do I get injured, so obviously something is wrong, but I can't get anyone to help.

 

[ad5ly]

I recall that you had probs with your knees. All these injuries knees, back, quad are piling up on you. I don't think asking questions on the forum about all these injuries is going to fix them. How old are you btw? I am going on 60 so I might relate. How long have you been strength training? Have you a long history of exercise related injury? I believe you live in the U.S or the perhaps the U.K - not Bum-Fuq Egypt - so there has to be some competent doctor around that at least can properly diagonose all this. It could be pyschological or nerve related. But I am just a guy on the forum who is just guessing. I might suggest you stop all strength training activity and just do mobility drills (SUPER JOINTS etc..) for a year or so. Swim or run. If that does not hurt. Find a sports doc and a movement specialist. The forum is great for sharing info and experiences, but lousy for specific medical advise...Dennis

 

[schnieder]

Bradley - Have you tried this? Amazon.com: Posterior Chain Linked (Simple Strength) eBook: Sean Schniederjan: Kindle Store

Grey Cook's Secrets of...Series found on this site is very helpful too.

let me know if I can help sean@strengthproductionsllc.com

 

[Bradley]

I recall that you had probs with your knees. All these injuries knees, back, quad are piling up on you. I don't think asking questions on the forum about all these injuries is going to fix them. How old are you btw? I am going on 60 so I might relate. How long have you been strength training? Have you a long history of exercise related injury? I believe you live in the U.S or the perhaps the U.K - not Bum-Fuq Egypt - so there has to be some competent doctor around that at least can properly diagonose all this. It could be pyschological or nerve related. But I am just a guy on the forum who is just guessing. I might suggest you stop all strength training activity and just do mobility drills (SUPER JOINTS etc..) for a year or so. Swim or run. If that does not hurt. Find a sports doc and a movement specialist. The forum is great for sharing info and experiences, but lousy for specific medical advise...Dennis

I'm 31. Doc said he's NEVER seen a partial quad tear. And it's basically unheard of for someone my age. He referred me to another, who referred me to a physiatrist. It's been a week and a half and they haven't sent over the referral paperwork yet, and when I called, after being told I would be called, I was informed the physiatrist doesn't have an opening for 3 MONTHS. What a joke.

Something is really messed up.

Maybe there are competent people. But how to find them is a complete mystery. But in well over a dozen doctors and PT's each I haven't come across one that is both competent and takes what I say seriously.

I tried Super Joints, but that was a long time ago, and I don't think I got anything out of it. I'll never buy another Pavel book. It's all fluff. HUGE and EXTREMELY expensive white spaces. Half of the pages are advertisements for other similarly overpriced "books."

 

[Paul Britt RKC]

Where are you located? It will help to refer you to someone.

 

[Bradley]

Where are you located? It will help to refer you to someone.

Saratoga Springs, NY. It's about 45 min north of Albany.

 

[Paul Britt RKC]

How close is he? http://www.dragondoor.com/michael-kurkowski/ I would visit with him and have an FMS performed.

 

[RosettaWood]

I was moving some furniture and tweaked my right quad tendon. It wasn't an acute injury, but sometime the next day, I felt pain right above the patella, right where I had a partial tear in my left quad tendon. I suspect it was some kind of tearing, but the pain went away and there wasn't significant swelling, so I don't think I need to do anything about. And a doctor I saw completely agreed.

And if I try squatting I hurt my back, or my knees feel off. I don't know what to do. I've sought help from Dr's and PT's but they tell me everything is fine. If that were true, I wouldn't have these problems. I can't make progress because no matter what I do I get injured, so obviously something is wrong, but I can't get anyone to help.

Hi,
Youcan ask for second opinion, there is no harm about it. And be sure to telleverything about your concern. In addition, take a rest and do not do thingsthat may aggravate the pain.
-Rosetta

 

[Bradley]

I saw a doctor. Physiatrist. He basically said it was hopeless, but gave me a prescription for PT for what reason I don't know.

Can't anyone actually TRY to get to the bottom of this?

I'm hesitant to contact the FMS people and see who they deal with, because I'm almost certain it's just going to be another doctor who won't try to help.

 

[ad5ly]

I sense your frustration and if I could I would help you. It is not hopeless. Many others have recovered from catastrophic injuries and were judged to be hopeless - but they did not believe that and they recovered - some far beyond what was thought to be possible. Attitude, attitude, attitude!!..You are not "done" until you are dead and buried. Try doing light body weight training progressions like CC for damage repair and to build up your confidense. I believe your confidense as well as your body have taken a beating. Start with a completely clean slate. Forget about your training in the past. Ditch the weights for now. You need to rebuild and renew yourself in a way that has you getting stronger without injury. Your training sessions should be easy and short for now. Don't push hard. Explore where your limits are. ..Dennis

 

[Paul Britt RKC]

I saw a doctor. Physiatrist. He basically said it was hopeless, but gave me a prescription for PT for what reason I don't know.

Can't anyone actually TRY to get to the bottom of this?

I'm hesitant to contact the FMS people and see who they deal with, because I'm almost certain it's just going to be another doctor who won't try to help.

While your frustration is understandable, you have to be willing to step back, reassess and move forward again. Most FMS are associated with top notch medical groups. i only refer to the best that I can find. They also understand what FMS is used for and what it reveals. I have several SFMA's that i am able to refer to in the area.

Start with being screened. could a lack of mobility and stability be part of your issue? If there is no pain during the FMS, you will not be referred out and maybe can start moving better. If not, at least you have a standard test to move forward from.

In my own life, I am recovering from a back injury that occurred a year ago. If not for FMS, RKC and Primal Move, I would still be in pain with no improvement. the injury started out as a lack of ankle mobility...

 

[Bradley]

I sense your frustration and if I could I would help you. It is not hopeless. Many others have recovered from catastrophic injuries and were judged to be hopeless - but they did not believe that and they recovered - some far beyond what was thought to be possible. Attitude, attitude, attitude!!..You are not "done" until you are dead and buried. Try doing light body weight training progressions like CC for damage repair and to build up your confidense. I believe your confidense as well as your body have taken a beating. Start with a completely clean slate. Forget about your training in the past. Ditch the weights for now. You need to rebuild and renew yourself in a way that has you getting stronger without injury. Your training sessions should be easy and short for now. Don't push hard. Explore where your limits are. ..Dennis

I've thought the same things. I pay attention to football, and was amazed that Adrian Peterson was able to recover from ACL surgery in 9 months and be the best running back in the league. That only makes it more frustrating. If he can do that, why can't I fix a much less catastrophic problem? It should be pretty quick and easy compared to that, but no one is willing to stick with me to figure anything out.

I'm pretty much only doing upper body stuff with weights. I jump rope, sprint, play flag football for legs, but those all feel terrible too.

I can't even to bodyweight squats without discomfort, though I still do them. And all the things I listed above feel lousy, but I can't stop living my life.

Going easy has never helped at all.

 

[Bradley]

While your frustration is understandable, you have to be willing to step back, reassess and move forward again. Most FMS are associated with top notch medical groups. i only refer to the best that I can find. They also understand what FMS is used for and what it reveals. I have several SFMA's that i am able to refer to in the area.

Start with being screened. could a lack of mobility and stability be part of your issue? If there is no pain during the FMS, you will not be referred out and maybe can start moving better. If not, at least you have a standard test to move forward from.

In my own life, I am recovering from a back injury that occurred a year ago. If not for FMS, RKC and Primal Move, I would still be in pain with no improvement. the injury started out as a lack of ankle mobility...

I've gone the FMS route and after more than a year of work I was told my movement was improved and everything was better. However I felt no actual improvement. 0%. Basically, I think I can fake it. I can force my body to move in what may appear to be a normal way, but that is not normal for me.

 

[Bradley]

Go to the Egoscue clinic in Westchester. You have a core distortion issue.

What is a core distortion issue?

 

[Ace83]

Brad, I have loosely followed Pete Egoscues work for about 6 years, he's had some success working with dysfunctions. On a side note, anyone willing to offer you a diagnosis online, especially from the little information you have provided, is not helping you. Either a, they have so little understanding of joint and muscle testing, various diseases that attack the joint structures, and human phisiology that their uneducated opinion means nothing; or b, they are offering you a broad catchall that covers so much that it means nothing. AWAK, i'm sure you're intention was to help a young man by pointing him in the direction of someone who helped you. I hope I haven't offended you.

 

[Ace83]

Brad, good luck.

 

[WillardPalmer]

does amazon delivers its supplies to asian subcontinent or not? i wish to know more about it..

 

[Bradley]

Start with being screened. could a lack of mobility and stability be part of your issue? If there is no pain during the FMS, you will not be referred out and maybe can start moving better. If not, at least you have a standard test to move forward from.

I will likely get through the screen with little to no pain. Pain is not my problem.

 

[Bradley]

Brad, I have loosely followed Pete Egoscues work for about 6 years, he's had some success working with dysfunctions. On a side note, anyone willing to offer you a diagnosis online, especially from the little information you have provided, is not helping you. Either a, they have so little understanding of joint and muscle testing, various diseases that attack the joint structures, and human phisiology that their uneducated opinion means nothing; or b, they are offering you a broad catchall that covers so much that it means nothing. AWAK, i'm sure you're intention was to help a young man by pointing him in the direction of someone who helped you. I hope I haven't offended you.

$250 and a 3 hour drive each way for a posture analysis?

 

[Ace83]

Brad, I was responding to Awaks diagnosis and recommedations (The posts for which he deleted). I am not recommending him or his affiliates (he has several books out on diagnosing yourself and correcting basic asymmetries if you wanted a overview of him). Personally I am a strong proponent of physical therapy, which according to your posts has not helped you (which is why I said nothing on this thread, saving for recommending you don't listen to online diagnosis from unqualified people.